msn-pecan 0.1 good enough?

[Stephen Holt]

We're debating the relative meaning of numbers now, which means this thread
has outlived it's usefulness.

Given pecan means a protocol feature regression for Adium, however small, I
am against integrating it at this time.

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Steve Holt

On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 10:05 PM, Christopher Forsythe <chris at growl.info>wrote:

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> On Tue, Mar 23, 2010 at 9:51 PM, Eric Richie <eric at adium.im> wrote:
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>> On Mar 23, 2010, at 9:31 PM, Felipe Contreras wrote:
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>> On Wed, Mar 24, 2010 at 3:04 AM, Augie Fackler <lists at durin42.com> wrote:
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>> On Mar 23, 2010, at 7:09 PM, Felipe Contreras wrote:
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>> Besides, I have provided crystal-clear numbers that show that
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>> end-users don't care about that, or at least, they care *way* more
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>> about fast file transfers.
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>> *Your* users[0] don't care. Ours very well might.
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>> You hit the keyword: *might*. You don't know.
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>> In fact, a cursory search of our trac suggests that we have active users
>> depending on MSN <-> Yahoo support and filing bugs about it, so a regression
>> like that would probably make a number of them pretty upset.
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>> Which tickets? I can only find *one*:
>> http://trac.adium.im/ticket/7809
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>> And that one is miss-categorized because the complaint is about MSN
>> contacts in YIM, not the other way around.
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>> Your users probably tend to be the more savvy end of the crowd. Many
>> low-end users never need file transfers and just use email anyway.
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>> That's speculation. You don't know.
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>> [0] In fact, your users that are able to properly triage a bug into the
>> msn-pecan issue tracker, which implies an even higher level of
>> sophistication than picking msn-pecan over the default prpl in the first
>> place.
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>> All you need is to be logged in your Google account and click a star
>> to vote... that's nothing sophisticated.
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> Replying to include Felipe since he is not subscribed and should see it.
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>> It doesn't matter how many people 'vote' on it. We've said time and time
>> again, regressions are not something we're willing to just 'accept'.  This
>> isn't an issue of trading one major feature for another major feature.  If
>> regressions are going to cause us a support nightmare, it's not worth doing
>> yet.  Yes, 'yet'. Right now it really doesn't sound like a good option based
>> on our already severely limited manpower. ...And if it's going to cause
>> support issues when users start to complain that they can no longer chat
>> with Yahoo contacts and our only answer is that we removed it? That takes
>> even more of our time to deal with. That's not acceptable.  That sort of a
>> commitment just isn't doable for us based on our current available
>> resources.
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>> -Eric
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