[Adium-devl] Adium iPhone

[Ryan R. LaMothe]

That's fine, I'm not intending to get into this conversation at this  
point in time.  I read too much of this type and tone of conversation  
on Slashdot on a now monthly basis (I remember what it used to be like  
in 1996 when I first signed up).

Thank you for your opinions and I hope we can all feel free to openly  
share our opinions on this mailing list without feeling attacked.


Sincerely,
Ryan

On Jan 23, 2009, at 3:30 PM, Peter Hosey wrote:

> As this sub-thread gets farther from the topic of Adium, I suggest  
> you send your response to me privately.
>
> On 2009-01-23, at 06:25, Ryan R. LaMothe wrote:
>> It seems to me that you have a specific philosophical difference  
>> from other developers, about commercial (ie. for pay) software  
>> development, …
>
> What would that be?
>
>> 1) Without the App Store, there would be no supported SDK,
>
> There could be. Nothing stops Apple from providing a supported SDK  
> and not having the only App Store. (See Mac OS X.)
>
>> centralized distribution system,
>
> The App Store doesn't have to be the only App Store.
>
>> centralized marketing, centralized payment system, et. al.
>
> Those come from the one and only App Store, not the SDK.
>
>> 2) To support #1, I have done a fair amount of J2ME development for  
>> the Blackberry for commercial clients.  Since there is no  
>> centralized distribution system, centralized or even standardized  
>> installation system, centralized payment system, etc. development  
>> on the Blackberry is a complete pain in the ass.  And terrible from  
>> a user perspective, especially people who are not technical people,  
>> when it comes to installing applications, updating applications, etc.
>
> I didn't say Apple shouldn't have an App Store.
> I didn't say it shouldn't come with the iPhone.
> I wouldn't even mind it being the only one—*if* Apple behaved better  
> about it.
>
> Basically, you're assuming that the only alternative to the iPhone  
> App Store is whatever Blackberry has. That's wrong.
>
>> 3) The convenience of #1 to overcome to PITA of #2 costs money.  It  
>> costs developers money and it costs Apple money.
>>
>> 4) If Apple does not make money, they go out of business.
>
> Yes, I understand the concept of business.
>
>> Without Apple, there is no iPhone, iPod, etc.  So, selling the  
>> application, even for a nominal fee works to support the entire  
>> development and commercial ecosystem that allows any of this to  
>> exist.
>
> Yes, selling applications on the App Store allows this system with  
> mandatory DRM and a flawed review system to exist.
>
>
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