[Adium-devl] MSNp15 (libpurple im.pidgin.pidgin) in Adium 1.3.x

[Eric Richie]

On Sep 10, 2008, at 6:53 PM, Felipe Contreras wrote:

> On Thu, Sep 11, 2008 at 12:28 AM, Chris Forsythe <chris at growl.info>  
> wrote:
>>
>> On Sep 10, 2008, at 12:21 PM, Robert Vehse wrote:
>>
>>> I see is that we've been flooded with complaints over MSN since 1.3
>>
>> You probably meant to say "from the beginning of time" right?
>>
>> Seriously, I don't see people who use msn to be happy until it's
>> exactly like the official windows client in features, so I don't know
>> that this is a decently good argument or not.
>>
>> Felipe is being pretty responsive, but I think the position that the
>> Adium team is making is that they want to use whatever gives users  
>> the
>> most bang for the developer buck. The position that Felipe is making
>> is that he's writing a better codebase, however it's got a few
>> features that are being demanded.
>>
>> I think the solution here is pretty simple. Switch to msnp15, and  
>> then
>> if/when msn-pecan improves beyond p15 in the features department,
>> switch back to it. That of course leaves the question of reverting
>> 1.3.future-release back to pecan. This sort of thing move would  
>> remove
>> the whole emotional attachment that anyone has, and would leave the
>> Adium devs and Felipe with motivation to continue to work on pecan,  
>> to
>> make patches for both libraries if/when possible, and to strip away
>> anything except for logic from this sort of decision. This isn't as
>> clear as the joscar switch, but I think that it's pretty clear as to
>> what the best judgement call is.
>
> I like this open decision better. Use whatever works best.
>
> I'm confident that at some point it will be clear that msn-pecan is
> superior, perhaps 0.1.0.
>
> So is this the final decision? A decision would allow me to plan  
> better.

I think it should be.  We're all in agreement that we need to do what  
works best, both for ourselves and for our users.  At this point in  
time it sounds like MSNP15 will best suit those needs.  Felipe, let me  
be the first to say that I sincerely hope that you are able to make  
pecan a vastly superior library.  We know you aren't going to stop  
working on it just because we aren't using it right now, so it's even  
better.

-Eric