[Adium-devl] MSNp15 (libpurple im.pidgin.pidgin) in Adium 1.3.x

[Robert Vehse]

Am 10.09.2008 um 18:26 schrieb Felipe Contreras:

> On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 6:43 PM, Robert Vehse <robert.vehse at gmx.de>  
> wrote:
>> I'm happy to have merely one MSN-only contact in my list, not having
>> to rely on MSN.
>>
>> However, from the standpoint of someone working in Trac and in the
>> forums MSN-Pecan looks like a regression to me. With MSNp9 we knew
>> there were certain features missing and most users had arranged
>> themselves with that and I cannot remember any MSN-related crashes.
>
> Fine, focus only on the drawbacks.


>> Now I'm seeing a great influx of reports –  a multitude of crashes
>> (at least nine of them right now!), connection problems, pictures and
>> aliases not showing and more.
>> For reference, here you can see all tickets with the "msn-pecan"
>> component: http://trac.adiumx.com/query?
>> status=new&status=assigned&status=reopened&component=msn-
>> pecan&order=type.
>
> Have you read them?
>
> Crashes:
> 10995: probably in adium
> 10705: rare
> 10704: rare
> 10971: no idea

10228 (not rare), 10278 (not rare), 10646 (not rare), 10865 (might be  
duplicate, hasn't been looked at, yet), 10958 (HTTP only). It adds up.

> Connection problems:
> 10146: was happening on msnp9, I took over
> 10974: not common, and probably happens on msnp*
> 10935: happens on msnp*, fix is already implemented in msn-pecan

Perhaps those tickets don't count much but I'm seeing complaints over  
connections problems with MSN in many places (different forums, IRC).

> Aliases not showing:
> Where?

http://trac.adiumx.com/ticket/10758

>
> Pictures:
> Yeah, I'm working on that.

I know that. :)

>> I can't say much about libpurple MSNp15 but MSN-Pecan seems almost as
>> bad what we had before and I never thought I would say that.
>
> Most of the crashes are related to bad usage of switchboards and
> cvr(p2p) code. That means that a couple of key fixes might actually
> fix most of the issues.
>
> But I guess the code is not important.
>
> -- 
> Felipe Contreras

Important is (quoting Stephen Holt): "Whatever gives the users the  
features they'd use with the least amount of complexity for us ".
I really appreciate that you're trying to clean up the code but the  
problem I see is that we've been flooded with complaints over MSN  
since 1.3


Am 10.09.2008 um 18:28 schrieb Peter Hosey:
> On Sep 10, 2008, at 08:43:26, Robert Vehse wrote:
>> a multitude of crashes (at least nine of them right now!)
>
> Have we reported all of these in the MSN-pecan bug-tracker?

Do you expect us to report them all upstream?

Robby
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