[Adium-devl] MSNp15 (libpurple im.pidgin.pidgin) in Adium 1.3.x

[Felipe Contreras]

On Wed, Sep 10, 2008 at 6:43 PM, Robert Vehse <robert.vehse at gmx.de> wrote:
>
> Am 09.09.2008 um 00:15 schrieb Evan Schoenberg:
>
>> I'd like to propose moving Adium 1.3.x back to im.pidgin.pidgin for
>> MSN connectivity – that is, MSNp15 – for Adium 1.3.2.  libpurple
>> 2.5.1 fixed the immediate influx of msnp15 problems, and what we're
>> left with now is that it appears to be the better choice looking
>> forward.  As always, working with the library with a wider audience
>> helps us with bug reporting and development, and msn-pecan
>> continues to have problems sending display pictures and doesn't
>> support sending offline messages (which also means sending to
>> invisible users).
>>
>> I'd prefer that our side of helping to debug (and fix!) problems be
>> directed towards the ultimate code base we'll be utilizing.
>>
>> The primary known issue with msnp15 is that apparently it sends a
>> lot of data at signon, which means some users on slow connections
>> end up getting timeout errors.
>>
>> N.B.: I don't use MSN at all.  If you're using trunk and MSN, I'd
>> like to hear about any other concerns you have.
>>
>> -Evan
>
> I'm happy to have merely one MSN-only contact in my list, not having
> to rely on MSN.
>
> However, from the standpoint of someone working in Trac and in the
> forums MSN-Pecan looks like a regression to me. With MSNp9 we knew
> there were certain features missing and most users had arranged
> themselves with that and I cannot remember any MSN-related crashes.

Fine, focus only on the drawbacks.

> Now I'm seeing a great influx of reports –  a multitude of crashes
> (at least nine of them right now!), connection problems, pictures and
> aliases not showing and more.
> For reference, here you can see all tickets with the "msn-pecan"
> component: http://trac.adiumx.com/query?
> status=new&status=assigned&status=reopened&component=msn-
> pecan&order=type.

Have you read them?

Crashes:
10995: probably in adium
10705: rare
10704: rare
10705: rare
10971: no idea

Connection problems:
10146: was happening on msnp9, I took over
10974: not common, and probably happens on msnp*
10935: happens on msnp*, fix is already implemented in msn-pecan

Aliases not showing:
Where?

Pictures:
Yeah, I'm working on that.

> I can't say much about libpurple MSNp15 but MSN-Pecan seems almost as
> bad what we had before and I never thought I would say that.

Most of the crashes are related to bad usage of switchboards and
cvr(p2p) code. That means that a couple of key fixes might actually
fix most of the issues.

But I guess the code is not important.

-- 
Felipe Contreras