[Adium-devl] MSN: pecan vs libpurple

[Evan Schoenberg]

On Jul 15, 2008, at 12:06 PM, Eric Richie wrote:

> Things are starting to get a bit crazy so I think it's finally time  
> to weigh in.  1.3 needs to ship.  That's the bottom line.  We  
> committed to the switch to pecan and at this point we need to stick  
> with it.

I agree, Eric. Note that 'committed to the switch to pecan' is for  
1.3.  It is clearly the superior library to msnp9, which we were using  
in 1.2.x; there is no argument about that.  It is an iterative  
improvement -- with some significant leaps, notably personal message  
support and upcoming offline message readonly support -- and we have  
tested it through Adium betas with overall success.

It would definitely hold up our own testing to switch to msnp15 at  
this point in the 1.3 beta process, though I do understand that it has  
been explored by a fair number of users through the msnp15 Adium  
builds and found to also be quite stable and overall excellent.

In general, it is preferable that our libpurple codebase be that of  
the most recent release off of im.pidgin.pidgin, as closely as  
possible, and this is a heavy weight in favor of switching to msnp15  
for 1.4 at the latest (and possibly for a well-tested 1.3.x release).

Long term, it would be best if we didn't have to pick between two  
'competing' codebases, each with its own advantages and disadvantages,  
and I think that this is clear to all involved.  Given that, I would  
really like to help (at a social/team level, not at a coding level)  
negotiate reintegration of msn-pecan's improvements into msnp15.  This  
shouldn't be impossible given that they have a common progenitor; the  
primary problem seems to be philosophical differences.

I know that in various places on pidgin-devl Felipe has expressed his  
frustration with various pidgin practices, and there have been heated  
arguments are both sides.  These differences may therefore not be  
resolvable, in which case it is a pity that someone's work will see  
less of the light of day than it would otherwise.

Cheers,
Evan

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