[Adium-devl] Focus/What are we doing?

Augie Fackler lists at durin42.com
Thu Oct 18 19:15:33 UTC 2007


On Oct 18, 2007, at 12:57 PM, Igor Foox wrote:

> I am not an Adium developer, just a developer who happens to use Adium
> and lurk on this list. But I'd like to give you guys my outsider
> opinion.
>
> I think "the best OS X IM experience possible, period" is a great goal
> for Adium from the user point of view. I put OS X in there so you guys
> don't get it into your head to expand to those other platforms and
> de-emphasize OS X. :-) I don't believe that adding V/V  or A/V to the
> name will _actually_ have any effect on the market share, user base,
> or other metrics of Adium's success. I believe that with a project
> like this, which is fairly high-profile in the Mac world, news will
> spread. And it will spread quickly.

It's a great goal, but it's also very nonspecific. My concern is we
no longer have a specific focus now that we have basic IM working, and
file transfer in all the cases I happen to not use (seriously, FT
totally misbehaves and does nothing, but then iChat fails me fairly
often as well). My personal goal at this point is A/V as well as making
file transfer more reliable.

Augie

>
> <snip rebranding stuff that I'm less interested in />
>
>
> Just my 2 cents.
> Igor
>
> On 10/18/07, Chris Forsythe <chris at growl.info> wrote:
>> Folks,
>>
>>     So for the first couple of years of what ended up being Adium  
>> X, we
>> were going for "so many features you'll crap your pants". For  
>> those who
>> are newer, yes, that was the motto.
>>
>>     We stopped that a while ago, but we never really came back  
>> with what
>> it is we're doing. I've been running under the belief that we're  
>> going
>> for "the best IM experience, period", but I'm sure others feel other
>> ways. This has come to light recently, however indirectly, with the
>> naming convention discussion we had recently. Some folks wanted Adium
>> VV/Adium AV or something similar, which would indicate some kind of
>> emphasis on Voice/Video. Others have expressed interest in having
>> voice/video, but not really focusing on it. My opinion of this is  
>> that
>> what we're seeing is a different set of goals from each person, and
>> without a clearly laid out plan/structure for what we are achieving,
>> we're going to continue to have these types of discussions, which  
>> could
>> degrade into any number of weird/odd or even bad situations.
>>
>>     I've also been reading a lot of self help/marketting type books,
>> some of you know why, but I can't go into it right now. These books
>> however have drilled the point into my skull that this is  
>> something that
>> we need to do, that we need to define what we're doing and where  
>> we are
>> going with this. What makes us unique (our purple cow ( Seth Godin
>> reference, better explanation:
>> http://www.ted.com/index.php/talks/view/id/28 and
>> http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-6909078385965257294 and his
>> Purple Cow book are all excellent)) with Adium, what our goals  
>> are, and
>> where we are going.
>>
>>     I've been meaning to send this email for a while, I really think
>> that once we define what we're doing and where we want to go, the  
>> random
>> ambling we have will start to have a sharper focus and we'll get  
>> there
>> faster. I also thinks that you're going to have to think about why  
>> you
>> work on Adium in the first place, and why the others work on Adium.
>>
>>
>> Chris
>>
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