[Adium-devl] Bonjour and XMPP

[Evan Schoenberg]

On Mar 29, 2007, at 11:58 PM, Andreas Monitzer wrote:

> I wonder why everybody is that dependent on iChat when it comes to
> Bonjour-based chat. I haven't seen any complaints about not doing it
> the way iChat does it on server-based XMPP or AIM. Both Adium and
> gaim have a pretty large userbase, if both keep being standards-
> compliant, more clients will pick that up. I don't see anybody
> complaining that http://www.adiumx.com doesn't render properly in
> mosaic either (I assume it doesn't).

That is a pretty fallacious argument.   Mosaic isn't a current  
application, nor is it a metric of usability.  iChat, on the other  
hand, ships with every OS X system.  The correct parallel to draw for  
adiumx.com is not Masaic but rather Safari, in the case of OS X.  It  
is necessary that a website render in Safari; by definition, your Mac- 
oriented website is broken if it doesn't, even if it's "broken" in  
that it exhibits a flaw in Safari.  The correct action if that  
happens is:
1) Work around the Safari problem for now
2) Report the bug
3) For bonus points, fix it yourself in WebKit.

There is no world I can envision in which it would be acceptable for  
Adium to claim to have Bonjour messaging and then fail to work with  
iChat users logged in via Bonjour for at least basic messaging.

All this appears to be moot, though, as I was making a mistake in  
testing iChat previously and I've now successfully sent it a standard  
disco request and gotten a proper error in return.

-Evan
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