[Adium-devl] Fixing the 1.1 launch mess

David Smith catfish.man at gmail.com
Tue Aug 14 16:15:55 UTC 2007


	It's already on google code, maintained by atomicbird on #macsb.

On Aug 14, 2007, at 9:13 AM, Chris Forsythe wrote:

> heh, first psmtabs are maintained by us, and now sparkle looks like
> it might have to be?
>
> Let's see if we can get it up on maccode or something.
>
> Chris
>
> On Aug 14, 2007, at 11:05 AM, David Smith wrote:
>
>> 	I've spoken with Andy about Sparkle (he's rooming with my brother at
>> caltech, conveniently enough), and he wants/wanted nothing to do with
>> it. His original plan was to release 1.0 and move on. I'm not
>> convinced that's the way to go. In this *particular* case, the
>> problem seems to have been that we're the first to use the
>> minimumSystemVersion key (which makes some sense, I added it for us).
>> I suspect Coda and other similar apps will begin running into it once
>> they release a Leopard only version.
>>
>> 							David
>>
>> On Aug 14, 2007, at 3:30 AM, Evan Schoenberg wrote:
>>
>>> Great work, Peter and everyone else who helped to fix this
>>> situation so quickly, elegantly, and professionally!
>>>
>>> Looking at the root problem, it seems that S+ isn't being closely
>>> maintained.  I think the best solution is to talk to Andy about
>>> moving its changes to Sparkle itself and linking all non-current-
>>> Sparkle behavior to a plist key or the like, without which the
>>> current Sparkle behavior would occur.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Evan
>>>
>>> On Aug 13, 2007, at 6:20 PM, Peter Hosey wrote:
>>>
>>>> The story so far, based on my description of it to Colin this
>>>> afternoon over AIM:
>>>>
>>>> ---
>>>> We hadn't declared the minimumSystemVersion in the appcast, so
>>>> Panther users were downloading 1.1.
>>>>
>>>> Evan added it (<http://trac.adiumx.com/changeset/20572>), but he
>>>> added it as an attribute of the enclosure element, where Sparkle
>>>> and S+ do not look for it, so the Panther users were still
>>>> downloading it.
>>>>
>>>> So I moved it to an element inside the feed item element, sibling
>>>> to the enclosure element (<http://trac.adiumx.com/changeset/
>>>> 20573>), and that's what really brought out the breakage.
>>>>
>>>> Turns out that Sparkle had a bug 5 months ago in its minimum
>>>> system version checking that did not retain the string containing
>>>> the minimum system version, so when -appcastDidFinishLoading: was
>>>> called, the string object was not technically alive anymore, yet
>>>> SUUpdater tried to compare it to another version.
>>>>
>>>> That bug got carried over to S+, whence it came into Adium.
>>>>
>>>> 5 months ago, Andy fixed it (<http://sparkle.andymatuschak.org/
>>>> changeset/13>), but that fix did not get into S+ (somehow).
>>>>
>>>> The bug was masked before because we didn't have a minimum system
>>>> version declared, at least anywhere where Sparkle was looking for
>>>> it. But once I moved the version to an element, now Sparkle was
>>>> finding it, and not retaining it, and comparing it, and choking on
>>>> it.
>>>>
>>>> Presto: Crash on launch for almost all new 1.1 users and 1.0.5
>>>> users.
>>>> ---
>>>>
>>>> So here's what I suggest:
>>>>
>>>> 1. Take 1.1 and the minimumSystemVersion elements out of the
>>>> appcast.
>>>> 2. Push 1.0.6 with the fixed Sparkle+, for the benefit of Panther
>>>> users.
>>>> 3. 24 hours later, release 1.1.1, put it in the appcast, and
>>>> restore the minimumSystemVersion elements.
>>>>
>>>> Do we have any disagreements with this plan?
>>>>
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