Is this thing on?

Luke Hiesterman gravisman at gmail.com
Fri Jan 18 17:40:43 UTC 2019


To me the interesting features of a modern chat system aren’t easily achievable by an Adium-like project. I want end-to-end encryption and I want cloud transcript syncing between clients as fundamental basics before I would even consider using a service. Then I need a network effect of the service so people I know are using it.

I struggle to picture a world where a project like Adium could deliver that.

Luke

> On Jan 18, 2019, at 9:26 AM, Moses Lei <bugs at moseslei.net> wrote:
> 
> I'm curious as to what services people are using Adium with these days? I'm not sure if this is a popular opinion, but perhaps we should just gracefully end Adium development, if our user/developer base has declined to that point. Like it or not, the days of interoperable protocols seem to be over, and there are almost no services out there that have an API for third party clients anymore.
> 
> My initial reason to contribute to Adium was because of IRC. I'm a cloud architect / IT consultant and over the last few years, almost all my use cases for Adium disappeared.
> 
> Personal use cases:
> - Facebook XMPP - deprecated by provider
> - AIM - no friends use anymore
> - Google Talk XMPP - replaced with Hangouts mobile app
> - Yahoo - no friends use anymore
> - Twitter - replaced with mobile app
> 
> Business/work use cases:
> - IRC - Replaced with Slack
> - SIPE/Lync - Replaced with Slack in one case, HipChat in another, firewalled off in a third (so now we have to use the Windows desktop app via RDS)
> 
> So, I have not needed Adium for anything for 4-5 years now (it's not even installed on my last two machines) and thus have no impetus to work on it anymore. I'm curious to know if other people have had the same experience.
> 
> Current IM services that I use:
> - SMS
> - iMessage
> - Slack
> - WhatsApp
> - Skype
> - LINE
> - WeChat
> 
> As far as I know, there is no support in almost any of these for third-party clients, so the raison d'etre for an app like Adium is not fulfillable-- even if we manage to get it onto mobile where it might be more useful.
> 
> Thoughts?
> 
> Moses
> 
> On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 9:06 AM Colin Barrett <colin at springsandstruts.com <mailto:colin at springsandstruts.com>> wrote:
> Hi Gary,
> 
> I've been trying to get our trac instance back online, or at least recover the dat from it for export. I dropped the ball a bit here, however. In my defense, life has been getting in the way, not a lack of desire.
> 
> If anyone thinks they can be particularly helpful with that, please get in touch with me here or on IRC.
> 
> -Colin
> 
> On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 5:22 PM Gary Kramlich <grim at reaperworld.com <mailto:grim at reaperworld.com>> wrote:
> Hey everyone!
> 
> This is Gary Kramlich current lead developer of Pidgin.  I'm reaching out to try and figure out what we can do to get Adium back on it's feet.  I have many ideas and would love to share them with you all.  So who wants to help?
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> --
> Gary Kramlich <grim at reaperworld.com <mailto:grim at reaperworld.com>>

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