New Adium 2.0 ideas

David Smith catfish.man at gmail.com
Sun Apr 4 20:07:11 UTC 2010


Look at the situation in reverse. We've volunteered (in many cases) 5 or more years of our life to supporting our roughly 1 million users and developing this program. We've put *thousands* of hours of thought and work into this. Suggestions are welcome and appreciated, but "redesigns", even from people who have been involved for years, rarely work out. When they do (for example the log viewer rewrite), it almost always takes days or weeks of argument and discussion to find the right way.

The selfishness and arrogance is your assumption that your handful of students represent a million people worldwide, and that your ideas are automatically better than what's been produced by orders of magnitude more work and thought, with input from orders of magnitude more people.

Ryan attempted to be helpful despite your rude approach, but apparently you're unreceptive to that.

	David

On Apr 4, 2010, at 12:23 PM, Juan Camilo Barrera wrote:

> What i proposed, was a new fresh design for the main chat window, and the answer was really selfish, like "What we have is excellent and we don't accept any suggestions" i guess is easy to redesign it that make people download Xtras, modify them, etc.
> 
> I work for a school, we use 54 macs, and 43 students would like to have a new Adium chat look, and 12 know how to make it looks really different.
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> My idea was simply a concept of how to make Adium better. If it doesn't help, no problem, i'll keep teaching my students how to download Xtras and customize it.
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> Have a nice day.
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> El 4/04/2010, a las 2:05, Peter Hosey escribió:
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>> On Apr 3, 2010, at 23:13:29, Juan Camilo Barrera wrote:
>>> Speechless, So rude.
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>> 
>> No, it wasn't. Ryan told you the correct places to submit bug reports and feature requests where we'll actually read them, the link to our page about voice and video support, and instructions on how you can already use some of the features you requested.
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>> The one part of Ryan's reply that you might be able to claim was “rude” was calling “bug-free” “a pipe dream”, but even that is simply truth. It would be wrong for us to ever claim that; that was his point.
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>> His message was, in fact, nothing but helpful.
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