[Adium-devl] Adium iPhone

[mm w]

David don't be so rude, sometimes it's interesting to have some point
from no-where :)
I think I don't retain/know the "truth", I m only able to share some
point of view due to my
experience, anyway I don't believe that a third party is a problem why
you guys wants absolutely
store this on the proxy server, use the proxy server that's all, grant
access thru a cert
anyway it's the same between a Desktop app and the iPhone, in this
case the server is your laptop that's it, as I can understand nobody
have a gmail account ecetera,  it's a bit stupid



On Thu, Jan 22, 2009 at 3:53 PM, David Smith <catfish.man at gmail.com> wrote:
> You apparently missed most of the thread. I'll clarify inline.
>
> On Jan 22, 2009, at 3:47 PM, Ryan R. LaMothe wrote:
>
>> Hello,
>>
>> I always find it odd when people don't get how a stand-alone IM client
>> would succeed on a mobile platform.  Well, I can give you a number of good
>> reasons why a standalone client would succeed:
>>
>> 1)  I refuse to store my username and password to IM services, email or
>> otherwise on 3rd party servers.  For example, I will not use BeeJive, Meebo,
>> etc.
>> 2)  Other privacy concerns unrelated to username and password when using
>> 3rd party servers (logged conversations, etc.).
>> 3)  I cannot use 3rd party servers to login to our corporate Jabber
>> server, due to legal issues (!)  This is a huge showstopper for me, since
>> our corporate development teams live though email and IM.
>
> One of the main suggestions today was that your personal copy of Adium could
> act as a server.
>
>>
>> 4)  I do not carry my laptop around with me %100 of the time, but I always
>> have my phone on me at all times.
>
> Hence this thread, yes.
>
>>
>> 5)  Once "push notifications" are available on the iPhone, it is almost
>> guaranteed that IM clients popularity will skyrocket.  This is the #1
>> complaint I hear from iPhone users as to why they do not currently use IM
>> clients right now (including AIM).
>
> Push notifications require serverside support, which is why I sent the email
> you replied to.
>
>>
>> 6)  Web-only clients generally suck.  They do not deal with unreliable
>> communication well, require 3rd party server support and if they worked so
>> well, the iPhone SDK would still be a large Javascript library.
>
> Who on earth was talking about a web client?
>
>>
>>
>>
>> Sincerely,
>> Ryan
>>
>> On Jan 22, 2009, at 11:39 AM, David Smith wrote:
>>
>>> There is a larger issue here in my mind. What does Adium for the iPhone
>>> actually mean? With push notification support coming "someday", I don't see
>>> how a local-only IM client on the phone can expect to succeed long term.
>>>
>>>                        David
>
>
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