[Adium-devl] libpurple: personal message != status message

[Jordan Schelew]

Of note, I came from only using MSN and Gtalk prior to Adium years  
ago, and I did originally have a hard time getting used to the status- 
tied-to-status-message way of thinking. I have grown to like being  
able to quickly switch to preset statuses, but I still get the urge to  
*only* update my status message/personal message quickly - without  
having to open another window and reselect my status. (Yes I know I  
can do CMD-Shift-Y, but then you have to select your status again -  
not nearly as simple nor as intuitive).

Thus my suggestions in http://trac.adiumx.com/ticket/8333

"
Move the status dropdown menu from the 'status' text below the display  
name to the status icon. In such a way, you would need to click on the  
status icon to change your status (in exactly the same way it works  
now - you just click on the status icon beside the name rather than on  
the status text below the name).
Make the status text editable in the contact list toolbar - exactly  
like the display name
"

The suggestion does not interfere with the way things currently are,  
while at the same time allowing for users to easily edit only their  
status message/personal message. The only thing that does change  
slightly is where you click to change your status, and IMO clicking on  
the status icon (which represents your status) to change your status,  
makes considerably more sense than clicking on the status message/ 
personal message which may or may not actually reflect your status.  
(For example, pretty much everyone on my list - including AIM users -  
use it for either a status message or a 'personal' non-status-related  
message at different times; their message thusly doesn't always  
represent their status).

Jordan

On 10-Sep-08, at 1:42 PM, Peter Hosey wrote:

> On Sep 10, 2008, at 06:27:03, John Bailey wrote:
>> I still see no reason to treat this as anything other than a status
>> message…
>
> Reading the MSN-pecan ticket, it sounds like some users (perhaps
> coming from one or both of the official Microsoft clients) are used to
> a “personal message” field, and are looking for and not finding the
> same thing in Pidgin/Adium.
>
> It's a case of different expectations. You and I are used to status
> state and status message together in a single status record; the MSN/
> Windows Live expatriates are used to status state and personal message
> separate.
>
> Conceptually, I think the Pidgin/Adium is better: you are either
> available doing something (Available, “Eating at my desk”) or away
> doing something (Away, “At In-n-Out”). Adium provides UI to edit the
> current state (and save it or not) if the user wants to change either
> property alone; it could be more obvious, but I think it's a solid
> foundation.
>
> Aside from “user expects everything to work like MSN”, what's the use
> case for separate editors?
>
>
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