[Adium-devl] MSNp15 (libpurple im.pidgin.pidgin) in Adium 1.3.x

[Felipe Contreras]

On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 4:50 PM, Thibault Martin-Lagardette
<thibault.ml at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Sep 9, 2008 at 2:23 AM, Evan Schoenberg <evan.s at dreskin.net> wrote:
>>
>> On Sep 8, 2008, at 6:30 PM, Felipe Contreras wrote:
>>
>> I don't like to compare the features, partly because I think msn-pecan
>> has better foundations, but also because it has less features :P
>>
>> The next feature of msn-pecan is something that msnp15 doesn't have;
>> fast (direct) file transfers, there's partial code in the 'next'
>> branch, but my bet is that it will take some time.
>>
>> The lack of offline messaging seems to be a major problem, especially
>> since it also means that we can't communicate with invisible users.
>>
>> Sure, msn-pecan has a 'long' standing issue with user displays, but I
>> don't think that has a high priority. Unlike Pidgin guys, I consider
>> the priorities (try to sort their bug reports by priority). So I've
>> left the cvr stuff (file transfers, emotions and user displays) mostly
>> untouched, it definitely needs a redesign, but that's not high
>> priority... only bug-fixes, which I do work on.
>>
>> The user display picture issue is a significant regression from msnp9.  I
>> would therefore classify it as a major bug.
>> You may not want to compare msn-pecan and msnp15 on 'features,' but the
>> fact of the matter is that these two significant aspects of the messaging
>> experience don't work in msn-pecan and do work in its philosophical
>> competitor, msnp15.  Most users aren't going to experience the edge case
>> crashes, but all will experience these lacks.  I completely agree that
>> ultimately a focus on stability is far more important than a breadth-first
>> approach to implementing features which turn out to be buggy...
>> ...but we're getting a ton of support requests, in every existing channel;
>> in fact, the display pictures bug in MSN is by my informal measurement the
>> most reported problem in Adium 1.3.  That counts for a lot in my book.
>> -Evan
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>
> Just one thing... Using Adium 1.3 and 1.3.1, I actually talk to offline MSN
> contacts... I mean, I do this like everyday, because two of my contacts are
> having some kind of issues with other people, so they go offline, but they
> still talk to me, and I can answer them. I don't understand where the MSN
> offline messaging issues lie?

AFAIK this works as long as they where online when they initiated the
conversation. And it keeps working as long as the conversation is
active. If you idle too long the connection is lost and you cannot
chat anymore.

-- 
Felipe Contreras