[Adium-devl] Throwing the switch

Colin Barrett timber at lava.net
Thu May 1 21:17:40 UTC 2008


One reason I suggested we drop a bunch of history is repository size.  
IIRC we were looking at 0.5GB with about half that due to checking in  
5MB binaries over and over (libgaim et al).

Sorry for the terseness, I am on my phone, not sure when my iMac will  
be back.

-Colin

On May 1, 2008, at 3:16 AM, Evan Schoenberg <evan.s at dreskin.net> wrote:

>
> On Apr 29, 2008, at 2:00 AM, Eric Richie wrote:
>> I'm not in favor of switching over this close to SoC.
>
> If we get it up and running, it may be a fairly clear choice whether  
> we're comfortable enough to use it full time.  It would be great if  
> we were; subversion currently sucks for maintaining multiple  
> branches, though some hacks make that better, as we've been through  
> multiple times before.  Some amount of confusion would be worth the  
> ease of branch maintenance a modern DVCS would bring us.
>
> If it's not 90% comfortable for us, having it ready would just mean  
> that we re-import and do the actual switch when we're ready to do so.
>
> GSoC is the addition of 3 students to the programming team.  We put  
> a lot of effort into making their experience smooth and educational  
> and so on, but the focus of Adium should not shift to center around  
> them.  They can adjust and learn to a reasonable but changing  
> environment.
>
>> I would however like to see a
>> push for work from 1.4 on to be Leopard and XCode 3.0+ (including the
>> current SoC students as it should open many more possibilities to
>> them).
>
> Half of Adium's userbase is on 10.4.  Most 10.5-only functionality  
> we might use can be very easily made to run on 10.5 and ignored on  
> 10.4.  'course, if we were on a DVCS, it'd be reasonable for someone  
> to have a long-range branch using 10.5-only functionality, merge  
> pending us dropping 10.4...
>
>>  I also wouldn't mind seeing a push to get the "Great Renaming"
>> taken care of soonish but I think we may need some more discussion on
>> those.
>
> Colin, do you still plan to do this?
>
> It'll need to be pretty automatic via XCode's refactoring features  
> to be worth the time effort, to say the least.
>
>>  But no, I don't think it would be a good idea to just push
>> "throw the switch" right away.  I strongly suggest that we wait for
>> the solution to be fully baked than to just go now for the sake of
>> doing it.  I'm willing to wait if the result is a better product in
>> the end.
>
> With that, I do agree.  I don't like dropping history, and it  
> shouldn't be necessary. I'd appreciate a little more detail about  
> where exactly the import from subversion fails.  We can easily  
> modify the repository to work around the problematic revisions; for  
> example, we can split those dual-branch commits into individual  
> commits at the subversion dumpfile level with minimal effort.
>
> Cheers,
> Evan
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