[Adium-devl] A Unit-Testing Dissertation

[Colin Barrett]

It doesn't have to, no. But if there was an opportunity to integrate  
it into existing test harnesses or pipelines, that might be nice.

It's certainly an excellent idea for a tool all on its own though.

-Colin

On Jan 29, 2007, at 4:11 AM, Ofri Wolfus wrote:

> Why should it be used with existing unit testing tools? Unit tests  
> are meant for units and not for user interface. UI tests know  
> nothing about the underlying units of the app (that's the reasoning  
> behind using the accessibility API and not DO, for example), and  
> independent units (= model) know nothing about the UI (assuming MVC  
> design).
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> - Ofri
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> On 29/01/2007, at 12:47, Colin Barrett wrote:
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>> It looks awesome!
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>> How would it be used with existing unit testing tools, is my only  
>> real
>> question. That, and any potential limitations or caveats you see.
>>
>> -Colin
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>> On Jan 28, 2007, at 12:17 PM, Ofri Wolfus wrote:
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>>> After some researching and a lot of thinking, I came up with this
>>> idea for building UI testing framework - http://www.dpompa.com/UITestingKit.pdf
>>> Before I start implementing it, I'd like to hear some comments. So,
>>> what do you guys think?
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>>> On 19/01/2007, at 14:00, Colin Barrett wrote:
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>>>> Any work you can do in this area would be EXTREMELY helpful, not to
>>>> just us, but to pretty much everyone writing software on the Mac.
>>>>
>>>> -Colin
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>>>> On Jan 19, 2007, at 3:52 AM, Ofri Wolfus wrote:
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>>>>> Actually, I *think* this could be done using GUI scripting and/or
>>>>> the accessibility API. I haven't thought about this much (yet)  
>>>>> but I
>>>>> think we can come up with an automated system for testing adium at
>>>>> real time rather than just the underlying framework.
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>>>>> On 18/01/2007, at 01:36, disposable at infinitenexus.com wrote:
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>>>>>> How would this apply to Adium? The typical argument for not  
>>>>>> adding
>>>>>> unit testing to Adium might be "it's a user-responsive app that
>>>>>> doesn't just do x with y, how would you unit test it?"
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