[Adium-devl] Better bug reporting statistics

[Chris Forsythe]

Let's keep the thread on topic, make a new thread about the preferences 
if you guys like though :)

Chris

David Smith wrote:

>A lot of that is performance concerns. The single-plist model  
>NSUserDefaults uses has proven far too slow in the past.  
>AIPreferenceController (singleton preference controller...) honestly  
>seems fairly reasonable to me.
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>		David
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>On Aug 1, 2007, at 2:16 PM, Elliott Harris wrote:
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>>Just as a side note, one thing I'd really like to see for 1.3 is a
>>complete preferences overhaul, moving towards a singleton preference
>>controller to work with all of our preferences and get our plist
>>piecemeal cleaned up once and for all. If anyone has tried to add a
>>preference that isn't Evan, you'll know what I'm talking about.
>>
>>-Elliott
>>On Aug 1, 2007, at 2:08 PM, David Smith wrote:
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>>>My vague understanding is that they still *work*, but they now warn
>>>the user, and won't be supported in the future. I'm not 100% certain
>>>on this.
>>>
>>>On Aug 1, 2007, at 2:05 PM, Augie Fackler wrote:
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>>>>I've heard rumors that InputManagers break on 10.5, so we might need
>>>>to push this ahead come October. SCR uses an InputManager, right?
>>>>(I've not checked, and even if I had it'd probably be NDA).
>>>>Augie
>>>>
>>>>On Aug 1, 2007, at 4:02 PM, David Smith wrote:
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>>>>>One nice easy one for someone interested (I forgot about it last
>>>>>night when I had some time for once. dang.) would be to track  
>>>>>number
>>>>>of crashes since the last sparkle submission, and number of hours
>>>>>run
>>>>>in the same period. That would get us MTBF numbers so we could at
>>>>>least tell which direction stability was headed.
>>>>>
>>>>>Long term I think crash reporting is so valuable and general  
>>>>>purpose
>>>>>that we need an equivalent to Sparkle (or equivalent to SCR without
>>>>>using input managers). Something nicely encapsulated that we can
>>>>>drop
>>>>>into any project and get instant crash reports. Doing this as an
>>>>>Adium-specific project would be doing the Mac community a
>>>>>disservice.
>>>>>My research so far indicates that google breakpad is the obvious
>>>>>choice for a backend (with access to all of Mozilla's serverside
>>>>>tools built to go with it, see http://crash-stats.mozilla.com/ for
>>>>>an
>>>>>early version), but I'm open to other suggestions.
>>>>>
>>>>>					David
>>>>>
>>>>>On Aug 1, 2007, at 1:54 PM, Chris Forsythe wrote:
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>>>>>>Before I quit irc again (9th time, and it's sticking so far!),
>>>>>>David and
>>>>>>I were discussing our crash logger options. Breakpad gets brought
>>>>>>up a
>>>>>>lot, but in general we've been floating around a few different
>>>>>>things.
>>>>>>The idea for 1.1 was soc2006, and 1.2 is soc2007. I'd like 1.3 to
>>>>>>focus
>>>>>>on getting better crash reporting statistics, but that's just me.
>>>>>>What
>>>>>>does everyone think about making a concerted effort for getting
>>>>>>better
>>>>>>crash log stats in 1.3 so that we can start working better on
>>>>>>those in
>>>>>>general and have a better idea of longterm changes in code being
>>>>>>effective for crash prevention/resolution?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Chris
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