[Adium-devl] Support for adding new view?

Ofri Wolfus ofri.wolfus at gmail.com
Fri Nov 10 21:43:08 UTC 2006


On 10/11/2006, at 23:31, Colin Barrett wrote:

> Why would we need to use PSM tabs? Who needs to drag and re-order  
> the tabs?

No real need, but maybe if a fresh look is needed.

>
> Also, I'm not sure how the finder's get info is wasteful: here it  
> is with no sections open:
>
>
> <Picture 9.png>

That's a ~270 x ~215 panel that shows only the most important info  
which actually takes about a quarter of the space.

> And with the default:
>
>
> <Picture 10.png>
>

This default takes more than half of my screen's height which IMHO is  
a waste. And closing each opened section before moving to another one  
is something I curse daily.

>
> Adium's get info window has a terrible UI right now, and I really  
> think it needs improvement and reorganization. The Finder's get  
> info window, I think, is a nice example of a modular UI that works  
> much better than what we have currently.

I agree the current panel is not that good, but tabs are the way to  
go IMO.

>
> On Nov 10, 2006, at 11:17 AM, Ofri Wolfus wrote:
>
>> I must say I don't like the Finder's info window as it wastes lots  
>> of space when you have few sections opened. I suggest allowing  
>> plugins to add new tabs to the panel and stay with the current  
>> look (maybe use PSMTabs?).
>>
>> - Ofri
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>> On 10/11/2006, at 23:04, disposable at infinitenexus.com wrote:
>>
>>> If the disclosable view concept is used I think it'll be relatively
>>> hard to make the overall view look horrible, because each "part"
>>> becomes its own functional segment defined by the content rect,
>>> disclosure button and title. So an info window plugin would need to
>>> provide a view and a localized title and then handle itself. Thus  
>>> the
>>> worse that could happen is a badly laid out section of controls, but
>>> its contained, and the majority will likely be owned by the core, so
>>> it should be a negligible impact as ours will be 'best of breed'.
>>> Disjointed, possibly.
>>>
>>> That's my .02, unadjusted.
>>>
>>> - brian 'bgannin' ganninger
>>>
>>> On Nov 10, 2006, at 2:33 PM, Colin Barrett wrote:
>>>
>>>> On Nov 10, 2006, at 10:27 AM, Evan Schoenberg wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 10, 2006, at 3:14 PM, Colin Barrett wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Chris brings up an excellent point -- we were thinking of  
>>>>>> adding an
>>>>>> International area to the get info window (it's getting a  
>>>>>> facelift
>>>>>> soon, more on that as I have time to write it) with per-user  
>>>>>> Spell
>>>>>> Check prefs and timezone information.
>>>>>
>>>>> The translation plugin could be included and integrated to an
>>>>> International area, as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> The Get Info window used to be dynamically built up using views
>>>>> supplied by multiple plugins... but it turns out to be a huge  
>>>>> hassle
>>>>> to make these look good together.  Not an argument against,  
>>>>> really,
>>>>> but just something to keep in mind in implementing a rewrite.
>>>>
>>>> The plan is to make something that looks a lot like the Finder's  
>>>> Get
>>>> Info window. I haven't even hit the mockup stage for this yet, so i
>>>> can't really tell you what it's going to end up looking like other
>>>> than that.
>>>>
>>>> -Colin
>>>>
>>>>
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