[Adium-devl] Jingle, Sip and IAX2 in one step

[Christopher Forsythe]

On Nov 8, 2006, at 7:00 PM, Brian West wrote:

>  We could at our option allow you to use our Jingle code if needed  
> an exception might be possible for you to use it under the terms of  
> the LGPL.  We have to stick with MPL for our needs due to patented  
> technologies like g.729, g.723.1 and AMR along with SS

So basically I don't think we can use Freeswitch, and it's debatable  
if we need it.

Why we cannot use freeswitch:

It boils down to a licensing and litigation thing. You (Brian)  
yourself said the following:

On Nov 8, 2006, at 7:00 PM, Brian West wrote:

> We could at our option allow you to use our Jingle code if needed  
> an exception might be possible for you to use it under the terms of  
> the LGPL.  We have to stick with MPL for our needs due to patented  
> technologies like g.729, g.723.1 and AMR along with SS7 which are  
> needed.


Basically I'm interpreting this statement as you saying "We don't  
want to get sued". My problem here is that you are more than happy to  
relicense the software in a way that would open us up to litigation,  
something that would destroy the Adium project in many ways if it  
ever went further than a c&d since many of us are located in the US  
and not other, more lenient countries.


You also said this:

> In addition an End user is free to combine incompatible code at  
> their own freewill but they are limited by the terms of any license  
> on distribution of the resulting work.


We're not going to force our end users to "recombine" incompatibly  
licensed software.


For more information on why the MPL is specifically incompatible for  
those following along at home, here's the info:

http://www.gnu.org/licenses/license-list.html#GPLIncompatibleLicenses


Adding all of this with the fact that Alvaro says we just don't need  
it and you arguing with him on it instead of asking what he thought  
would work, and I'm really not feeling all happy, happy; joy, joy  
about this proposal.

Don't get me wrong, it's nothing against you or your project at all,  
it's just that I don't think it would be such a good idea for us to  
go down this path. However, I think the cavalier attitude towards  
licensing that Andrew found is indicative of a problem that needs to  
be resolved.

So basically, I don't think we can use it. But good luck with your  
project and it's nice that someone else is working on Jingle too.

Chris

PS: NIH syndrome usually indicates that you are willing to rewrite  
code, not that you will use already written code/libraries. Unless I  
misread that statement, you may be interested in this: http:// 
en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Not_Invented_Here

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